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THE BARNARD SUMMIT: WOMEN, LEADERSHIP AND THE FUTURE

The Future of Women in Business Panel, October 26, 2001

The guidance counselor at her high school told Deborah Rosado Shaw that she should settle for a community college. In fact, the counselor was so adamant, she refused to send off any transcripts to four-year colleges. So Shaw trooped down to the board of education office herself to get those transcripts out. A native of Spanish Harlem, Shaw wasn't going to let anybody else's attitude get in her way.

Her persistence paid off. Shaw got into Wellesley College and ended up transferring to Barnard College, the independent college for women in New York City affiliated with Columbia University. A few years later, still a course shy of graduating, she was running her own company. Now Shaw heads Umbrellas Plus, a multimillion dollar manufacturer of outdoor furniture and fashion accessories that supplies Wal-Mart, Costco and Toys-R-Us. She founded Dream Big Enterprises, a company that trains entrepreneurs, and was recently named Businesswoman of the Year by the National Hispanic Business Group.

"Every win along the way just became that much more delicious," she said in
October. "It revealed so much more of life that I needed to continue to go down that path."

Shaw told her story as part of a panel discussion, "The Future of Women in Business," held at Barnard in October, and part of the Barnard Summit: Women, Leadership and the Future. The Summit, hosted by Barnard President Judith Shapiro drew more than 1,000 people to the College's campus on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Shaw ascribes her success to her luck, her pluck and her ability to seize control of her environment and make it work for her. For as much as women in this country are the envy of their counterparts the world over, they are still quite clearly operating in a man's world.

So Shaw and the four other members of the panel advised up-and-coming businesswomen not to settle for an environment if it wasn't working for them. That means that if you run into an old boys' network, create an old girls' network in return. Seek out companies that will let you thrive and leave companies that won't. Look for sympathetic superiors to show you the unwritten rules of the workplace. And, in those cases when you can't fit your life into the corporate mold, follow the millions of other women who have set up shop on their own.


You Go, Girl

The first step, though, starts with oneself. Society may accept working moms. But moms who want the corner office are another matter, said Francene S. Rodgers, the CEO of the Boston-area consulting firm WFD. It is hard for ambitious women not to feel guilty about it, Rodgers says, but there's nothing wrong with wanting it all.

"Most of the time when people see women who are successful in business, they tell us to slow down. There's no countervailing person to tell us, maybe even today, 'You go, girl,'" Rodgers said. "A lot of our internal conversations are about coming to terms with wanting to be successful and wanting to have a full life."

Yet it is possible to be a mother and an executive, and to be good at both. At a recent gathering in Prague of women executives from some of the country's largest companies, a survey showed that 74 percent had children, and 69 percent had children under 13, said Ellen Galinsky, president of the nonprofit Families and Work Institute based in New York City. A large proportion of them were the top earner in the household, according to her survey.

Nor does research show that children of working mothers turn out any differently than children of stay-at-home moms, Galinsky said. A job is only detrimental, she said, if the mother returns home so burnt out that she cannot pay attention to her children. Instead, mothers need to make sure they are focusing on their kids when they do see them.

"When I talked to kids about what they would most remember about this time in their lives, most said the small rituals and traditions that said they were a family," Galinsky said. "What's really important is that you care about your kids, that you listen to them, and that you do fun things, rituals and traditions."

That much said, businesswomen may need more than men to take time off work to tend to their children. But companies are realizing that they need to give employees more power to set their own schedules. "They need to know how important it is to leave at the end of the day to watch your son or daughter play soccer and return to work and stay until 9 at night," said V. Sue Molina, partner and national director of the retention and advancement of women program at Deloitte & Touche. "It's a huge motivator and will retain people when they think they have that control over their work life."


Old Girls' Club

There is still old-fashioned discrimination in the workplace, but employers have good reason to become a place where women want to work. And if it isn't, the woman should take action--or leave, Rodgers said. "It is the job of everybody who works not to be a victim and to speak up in cases where they feel unwelcome or disrespected," she said. And that starts before you even walk in the door, when job candidates are researching a prospective employer." If you don't ask questions, if you don't make sure you choose a place where you will thrive," Rodgers said, "then shame on us."

Recent graduates just entering the workforce may not notice any bias at all. The type of male clubbiness that keeps women out of the loop--and off the promotion ladder--becomes more apparent the higher up in an organization one goes, according to Rodgers. "When I ask this of men, they often say, 'Old boys' network? I'm not in one,' because they do not experience it as such. They do not believe they are leaving women out. The woman is just not in the room when the big decisions are getting made and they just don't notice."

The lack of female superiors who can act as mentors perpetuates the problem. "From my personal experience one of the things I was naive about was who my stakeholders were and who I should align myself with in order to be successful," said Molina, the Deloitte & Touche consultant. "You need someone ahead of you who is going to be your champion, someone telling you what you need to do, what those unwritten rules are in making sure you'll get promoted.

Janet Tiebout Hanson's response to the lack of a network was to build her own. Several years ago, the former Goldman Sachs & Co. manager founded 85 Broads, an organization named after the address for the investment bank's New York headquarters. Using the Internet, Hanson's organization links 1,300 present and former women Goldman employees and provides mentors to aspiring bankers.

"We desperately need to hear from women one to five years out ahead of us and to get feedback from the field before we make mistakes that are going to cost us our careers," says Hanson, whose 11-year career at Goldman made her the firm's first female sales manager. "One of the things that crushes me is to see young women's careers derailed in their 20s."


Virtues of Necessities


Sometimes, corporate life is not worth the trade-offs, and notably three out of the five panelists at Barnard have started their own enterprises and become their own bosses. Hanson, who founded Milestone Capital Management in 1994, an asset management business, discovered that her former male colleagues were actually nicer to her when she was no longer vying for the same promotions as they were. The number of women leaving corporate life to start their own companies is leading to looser workplace schedules. "Sixteen hundred women leave corporate America every day to become entrepreneurs, and companies are extremely concerned about this," Shaw said. "The No. 1 reason why women leave is because they want more control over their time."

But the panelists also said women's trajectories in the workplace are not all uphill. The very scarcity of CEOs like Shaw among wholesalers-- a woman, Latina and a mother--makes her stand out in a world of men.

"I'm probably in one of the most testosterone driven businesses there is. Often I'm in a room with 600 men and only 12 to 13 women. That's actually a competitive advantage for me and it's also a lot of fun," Shaw said. "Often I'm invited to the table because they want to see who is the bearded lady.
'Who is this person anyways?'"

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